EPISODE 354: The Deep, Free, and Rich Life

Hey, chiropractors. We're ready for another Modern Chiropractic Marketing Show with Dr. Kevin Christie, where we discuss the latest in marketing strategies, contact marketing, direct response marketing, and business development with some of the leading experts in the industry.

Dr. Kevin Christie: [00:00:00] All right. I'm excited to have. Tiffany and Tyler Armstrong on the podcast.

I've gotten to know them for the last year. They've been in our mastermind group and it's been a true pleasure to see this tandem of chiropractors work together, both personally and professionally. So before we dive into our topic today, tell us a little bit about what you got going on.

Tiffany Armstrong: Hey, , my name's Tiffany Armstrong and I am in practice with my husband tyler . And we live in Sioux center, Iowa, which is a town of 8, 000, 8, 000 people.

Dr. Kevin Christie: Um, huge city, huge city. Huge.

Tiffany Armstrong: Big time. Big time. Um, we have the Walmart. Oh, there you go. The big deal. So yeah, we moved here right after I graduated from chiropractic school. He graduated about six months before me. Um, and then on our first wedding anniversary, we had our first kid, which kind of started this snowball effect.

We had three kids in just six years, six years.

 And then [00:01:00] we obviously were chiropractors. We took over his, his late father's chiropractic clinic here in the office.

 He treats everybody. I specialize in women and children.

Tyler Armstrong: I have a sports background, um, been big in sports chiropractic rehab, active release over the years, and then my wife, Tiffany has done a lot of the pediatric and, uh, the prenatal postnatal.

Um, population, so pretty diverse practice. Um, she was saying we took over my, my father. We bought his practice out before he passed away in 2020. we bought the practice in 19. and, um, yeah, we've just been trying to grow it and kind of make it our own over these last 4 or 5 years. And. Um, yeah, functional medicine is definitely was a big part of my father's practice, and we've not done a whole lot with that after taking over.

And then recently, over the last couple of years, really started systemizing that and making another positive for a [00:02:00] practice for our patients. And then just for the overall bottom line of the practice, it's. And for us personally, um, it's, it's just been a really good thing. So.

Dr. Kevin Christie: Yeah. And that's what we're going to dive in today.

You were kind enough in our mastermind group, we do a handful of things. It's, it's a true mastermind. It's not just like a workshop or, or a didactic lecture, but we actually have members do each one, teach ones, uh, on. Topics that can really help us grow either professionally or, or even in our personal lives.

And, you know, we've had each one teach ones like Jeff Williams did one on their Airbnb. This was before you two had joined, but on Airbnb and how him and his wife have really dominated that. Uh, we've had some really good ones on MD marketing. You kind of name it. We've had some good ones in, uh, you, you two volunteered in our last one to talk about your functional medicine, uh, system that you've put in into your practice, what it's done.

Uh, for your patients, which is obviously always the key [00:03:00] and then what it's done, um, for the bottom line. Now, Tiffany, what's the name of the system that you're, you're utilizing and give us a little bit of an overview from that. Yeah, it's called the seven

Tiffany Armstrong: systems plan and it's by Dr. Pat loose. He's a chiropractor in Sioux city, Iowa, actually.

And what he systemized, um, just an overview of the body, right? No one knows our bodies. Like we know our own. And people always want to ask me my opinion. But we're all different. So sometimes we just have to get all the education and it's amazing when people come up and they're like, that's me. Um, what do you think about trying that for me?

Um, when they're learning about a certain system or they're learning about a digestive symptom or complication. And it's funny because I always have the same answer. I don't know. Try it. If that sounds like you troubleshoot it. Because what works for you might not work for another person. The same [00:04:00] antibiotic for one person will be a better antibiotic for another and it might hurt you.

Well, the same thing is true in personalized medicine. We have to troubleshoot. We have to heal. We have to give the body time and the best thing about 7 system is it's a mapped out plan over 6 months where the person, the patient gets to learn About every different system, and then we can kind of go after the low hanging fruit, right?

Like, what is the overarching issue? And let's zone in right there. Let's try and figure out if we can heal that. What other pieces of the puzzle are going to come together or where else do we need to spend the next focus energy on? So what we were finding was as we were treating patients, right? We love.

Mhm. Manual adjusting, we do MPI style adjusting, um. But we were noticing people were just not getting better, especially in the Midwest, right? You're coming in with knee pain [00:05:00] or low back pain that obviously is going to get better with the adjustment, but they just we couldn't get the inflammation. We couldn't get the pain under control.

And then, of course, when, you know, I'm sure you feel like this to Kevin. When somebody trusts you, they want your opinion on everything. They want help trying to get pregnant. They want help, um, with their headaches with. Constipation. And what I was noticing was I couldn't just quick throw them a supplement.

I couldn't, um, in the, you know, 15, 20 minutes I had with this person, figure out how to cure quote unquote, whatever was hurting or ailing them. So we were doing Um, consultations, which were taking up a ton of time and it was still not enough time, right? 20 minutes here, an hour there. I can't get through all the questions I need.

And then also, you know, teach somebody how to make a sweet potato for the 1st time in their life. Um, go through all their medical history. So. Dr. Luce through the [00:06:00] seven systems program helps me not have to spend hours and hours of my day digging through patients history. Cause like I said, we're teaching them about their body.

So then they get to choose what plan or what avenue they want to, um, kind of go down for themselves with their symptoms.

Dr. Kevin Christie: Yeah, and I think one of the couple of things I want to touch on that you just mentioned was, um, you know, there is kind of that halo effect. Your point was like when they trust us, they trust us on a lot of things and people use a halo effect for other things not related to this, but it's kind of like that where.

You know, they really trust you with their care. And so they're going to be asking you questions about other things. And if you have a skillset around that, or you add a service to your clinic, it's, uh, they're going to trust you for that, which is, which is great. Um, the other thing is I get chiropractors coming to me a lot about.

Wanting systems in their practice. They never know what that means, but we try to coach them on that, but they want systems. And then the [00:07:00] other, I get a lot of chiropractors talking about these days is functional medicine because we're, the more we, I think, as we get better as clinicians, it's kind of like, you know, that whole concept of, um, knowing what, you know, knowing what you don't know, and you go through that kind of shift.

And then you start to realize like, wow. Um, My care is really good, but there's something I'm missing with some of my patients. And, uh, it's a lot more deeper than, than just some manual therapy or rehab exercises and functional medicine can, can really play a big role with that. And what I like about this program is that it's a system, but it's not necessarily cookie cutter, right?

Um, can you, can you speak to that? Cause I think some people always get concerned about. Systems being too cookie cutter. And it's the same thing for everybody really where the sweet spot tends to be is when it's a kind of a, a system, a framework, but then it's also customizable or tailored to, to an individual's needs.

So can you touch on that a little bit?

Tiffany Armstrong: [00:08:00] So, oh, so what I was going to say, just to build on what you were saying is, um, you know, both Tyler and I did it. Start a chiropractic, you know, career thinking about functional medicine, weight loss isn't sexy. You know, I love adjusting people all day long. So then I walk into a consultation and just hold your just like pauses your whole day, which is important because they trust you.

And in our small town, there is no referral network for this. Right. It's us. Otherwise, I'm referring up a couple hours away. And unfortunately, people were walking out with 10, 000 worth of lab work and no plan, right? Of course, your hormones are shot. Of course, your adrenals are shot. What are we going to do?

How do we systemize this? Um, responsibly. So, um, that's where we kind of went looking for a plan, right? We are not functional medicine doctors. This is not, um, all we do. [00:09:00] So we had to figure out somebody that does it better than us. And that, like you said, had the system. I love systems. I love knowing the exact path forward.

Um, so that's where we went looking for this.

Tyler Armstrong: Yeah, and the system itself, it, it, it's, it works really well. The bones of it are education. So, um, when patients come on board with that, they're basically they're purchasing a year's worth of access to, like, I think, if a digital page that has lessons every week and about there's about 3 or 4 lessons.

1 hour long lessons per system, and it equates to about 6 months of lessons. So we do weekly classes with the patient. Um, and we have somebody that we're onboarding to take that off of our plate, but we can get 20, 30 people in a room, do the lesson, answer any questions, but they can also do that on their own.

They can do it at home digitally. And, um, we're just that resource for them. So, Dr. Lewis [00:10:00] really, He, he, he had the education component down and when people understand why they're doing the things they're doing, they're a lot more, um, open to fall in the direction we're giving them. And, um, that's the beauty of 7 systems.

So the education is the bones of it. But then there's a whole network of protocols that we utilize that Dr. Luce developed, and he partnered with Nutridyne, who's, that's who we use for, um, for our supplements and everything out of, out of Minneapolis, Minnesota. And, um, it, it, it's not cookie cutter, it's customizable.

So when they, we do lab work, we have a whole panel that we've partnered with our, our local area health system to, um, to get our patients to have that, that panel done, and then we'd look at that. And we use Dr Lucy's protocols, and we determine what road we're going to go down as far as what system we're, we're going to attack on these on these individuals that come to us with the plan.

And then we know exactly what to recommend. Uh, we make [00:11:00] those nutritional recommendations, um, and what the supplements, but then. The plan is also educating them on what to eat as well. And it's not just like taking weight loss shakes and things like that. We really want to meet in real food and it lays it all out there for us and it tailors it to them.

That's something a lot of people really enjoy. Um, in our plan, a lot of the, our past participants like how tailored it is to them. It's not just this cookie cutter approach. We're, we're looking at labs. We do embody a bio impedance on all of our participants and we're measuring that on a monthly basis.

So, we just like, when we're. to people, we say we're not guessing with this stuff. We, we, we have the data in front of us and we're letting that lead the way. And we're using Dr. Luce's, um, system that he developed, uh, to just plug and play and it works well,

Dr. Kevin Christie: which is great. And I want to, um, is there a particular intake as well for new patients?

Like if [00:12:00] you get, you know, new patients coming in, um, I'm, I'm, I'm assuming you may educate. All of them, but there are certain things you have as far as a screening assessment. If, if they are overweight, is that a clue for you to talk to them about that? Like, how do you do that with the intake? I guess

Tiffany Armstrong: that really what we do is the, you know, our first new patient visit, if you're a chiropractic patient, I'm still going to ask you, what are your goals?

And that's always going to really, um. Lay out the groundwork for okay, what's the end goal for them? So then I know how to make a reasonable plan. Well, if they're here, because they're working out and they're in pain working out. And of course, that's going to bring up a opportunity for me to suggest that.

But, um, it just depends because we have plenty of patients who are overweight who that's not on their radar right now. Right? I think most people are just doing the best they can and. [00:13:00] If that, you know, becomes a topic in the office, we can bring it up, but we really try and laser focus on what the patient's there to see me today for.

We

Tyler Armstrong: have, we have a lot of, like, uh, we have, like, tabletop signs in the rooms and then we, we have some, like, internal marketing with it. But like she would say, and we'd make it about their whole health picture, but narrow it down to what brought them in. But we found that naturally it kind of, or they'll organically start talking about some of these issues, whether it's weight loss energy, um, if they're on medications, they're interested in getting off of some of those, like, cholesterol medications, blood pressure medications.

It gives us a window to go into that whole discussion, but, um, it doesn't always start there.

Dr. Kevin Christie: Okay, perfect. And then how long have you two been doing this program?

Tyler Armstrong: Uh, about right about two years now.

Dr. Kevin Christie: Typically the seven systems. Perfect. And one of the things I like, you know, is I [00:14:00] think sometimes a misconception for chiropractors is if they go into nutritional supplementation, like they have to go all in and, and only be that, uh, or they don't think they can just add that to an existing so much.

Practice style that might be different. And obviously you, you two have a certain practice style. You're doing manipulation. You're doing rehab. You, you know, you got sports, you got pregnancy, you, you've got a, a fully involved practice and you were able to add it on top of that. Not necessarily completely change your, your practice style.

What would you say to that person that's concerned about that?

Tiffany Armstrong: Um, I guess I always think of, And he's probably going to laugh when I see him in January at your mastermind, but I was probably a try to and I took a TMJ seminar with Dr. Brett Winchester and excuse my language, but he goes, you know, he's talking about the patient.

So I asked him a question. He's like, it's not that hard to just give a shit about the patient in front of you. And as doctors, right, we just want to do what's best for our patients. Um, and [00:15:00] I think as long as that's your moral compass and you're looking at a population of people who don't feel good, right?

We have an epidemic of infertility and pain and migraines and, um, obesity and. We just don't see a lot of people, you don't bury a lot of overweight people in their 80s and 90s, right? You bury a lot of overweight people in their 50s, 60s and hopefully 70s. So if that patient, whether they're 65 or they're 25 and they're struggling and they need some help and I don't, I can't responsibly.

Refer them to somebody I know is going to for sure help them or I'm going to refer them to someone that's way more expensive than me. I can only say, okay, for six months, let me get you eating clean. Let me D inflame your body and let me see what we can get done with, you know, our two hands with food, learning how to meal prep plan for the week.

And I always joke, supper is coming [00:16:00] every night. I don't care how busy you are for the rest of your life. If you can afford a HelloFresh or some type of meal delivery service, awesome. But if you can't do that for the rest of your life, we might as well figure out a way to have, you know, a handful of meals that your whole family will eat, that you can enjoy, that you can plan ahead for because supper's coming.

So let's figure it out right now. And then we'll reap the benefits because we're going to pay the piper at some point. You want to pay them a little bit now, or just like the stock market, is it going to repay us? I don't know how much, maybe not our stock market right now. Hopefully, um, you know, is it, that's how our health's got to look at.

So if we can invest right now, let's figure out what we can and where we can reap those benefits in the future.

Tyler Armstrong: Yeah, no, that's great. I always say people, uh, people are going and getting information, um, on Google or they're, they're going and they're seeking things out. So [00:17:00] the way we look at it too, is.

They can trust us. I mean, like, we, we're vetting this and like, we've done this program personally. So we go to sleep fine at night knowing what we're recommending to people isn't sleazy or salesy. And I think that's always kind of in the back of everybody's mind. I think that was a block for me. Uh, for a long time before we really went all in on, on doing functional medicine consistently in our office.

I just, I never wanted to feel like I was selling, but I'm like, well, they're already telling me how they're going to Walmart or GNC and doing all this crap. And they don't even know what they're taking or why they're taking it. Why can't we be a guide for them? And

Dr. Kevin Christie: that's what I want to touch on. Cause you, you both did a great job in the each one teach one where, um, and we'll, we'll talk about it in a second, as far as the.

The revenue potential of it and such, but you're not, you two aren't like salesy people and you're not over the top with doing that. You're just being a good doctor. And then you're, you're, you're bought in on the program because it's been working. You're seeing the [00:18:00] results and it's a lot easier for you to have that honest conversation with them.

And it doesn't come across this, you know, salesy to the, to the patient, which is great. We always want to maintain. Uh, you know, being that patient centered, uh, to, to segue a little bit into the finances, you know, here at, at MCM, we, we make no qualms that we want, we want our doctors to be very good and patient centered, but we also want them to do well financially.

And I think a lot of. Chiropractors have a poverty mindset and they feel guilty if they're doing well, or that guilt prevents them from doing well. And so let's, let's dive into the, uh, the, the finances of a little bit. Uh, when you've been doing it for two years, when would you say you started to see the inflection point of where, okay, this is really starting to bring in some, some revenue.

And it's, um, definitely been worth our efforts in time, right? Cause there's a, There's a scenario where you could be bringing in some profits, but is it really matching up to the effort and time and bandwidth? [00:19:00] Uh, how long did it take for where you said, you know, this is definitely an added benefit, not only to our patients, but to our business.

Tyler Armstrong: You know, there was definitely a lot of effort and time at the, at the front end of it, but Dr. Luce. Does a really good job getting new offices up and going as weekly zooms. Um, it's, it kind of calls it like a little bit of a mastermind with this, but it's a lot of education, letting, you know, kind of how to implement it.

And then we figured out a lot of those, a lot of our own systems in our office, because it. The plan is the information's his material. You're using that, but each office can tailor the plan. However, you'd like, we choose to do more consultations that are included and we package that in with what people are signing up for in our office.

So. When it came to their initial consultation, getting our office flow and our staff on board with implementing the initial exam [00:20:00] with patients, they they've offloaded a lot of that off off our plate and what

Tiffany Armstrong: he's talking about with the exam is, of course, um, we do the embody, um, coordinate the lab work, um.

With, uh, our community health center here and they do like all the intake paperwork, right? I need to know what meds are you on, right? Do you poop every day? How are you sleeping? Some of those basic things that are going to kind of help me that they might not even realize are a problem where I'm like.

You only sleep four hours a night and you're up three times to pee. Well, of course your cortisol and your, you know, the weight isn't falling off. Right? So those are things that people think are normal, like pooping three times a week or even once a week or less than that, which is, you know, so sorry, they systemize that, um, or

Tyler Armstrong: systemized all that there.

And that took some, I wanted to just say that took a little bit more time at the front end of it, but it's Saved us so much time on the back end. Now that that thing's just a running machine. It's, it's no problem. And, um, I mean, we [00:21:00] made, uh, we were profitable right away. We, uh, we spent, uh, 10, 000 on the in body machine and we got the higher level 1 that can measure visceral fat because we, that's a huge deal in our 7 systems.

We want to make sure people are getting that number lower and lower each each month. But. Yeah. Um, I'd say within the 1st, 2 to 3 months, we were, I mean, that thing had paid for itself and you. Naturally get an increase in your supplement sales throughout that whole time. And a lot of that's recurring because once people are on a routine, they're taking the right nutrients are getting what they need.

And again, these are things they were already buying before. Now, they're just buying a better quality product from, from a doctor's office. And, um, and, and that's just been residual. So, Yeah, it didn't take many to 2 to 3 months max to to really start in that.

Dr. Kevin Christie: And you're really seeing results from your patients too.

Right?

Tyler Armstrong: Oh, yeah. Yeah. I [00:22:00] mean, we, we started seeing, I mean, within like, 2, 2 to 3 weeks, you'd start seeing some pretty amazing results. Some patients and then

Tiffany Armstrong: MD is coming back with. blood work that they already had scheduled and they're like, what is happening? And I remember calling dr loose on a couple of couple patients and I'm like, is this person gonna have a heart attack?

Right? His H. S. C. R. P. It's here. Or is this person to be on dialysis like their liver? They're in liver failure, right? People are walking around and they look like average joes and their bodies are literally failing. And then you take a peek under the surface. You're like, oh my gosh. And he's so confident.

In this point at the process where he's just like, do this X, Y, and Z retest in two months, you know, and it's amazing because it'll bring you to tears that the, the changes that just food can do on an actual supplement can do. And then, you know, they don't almost believe how good they feel, but then when they see the labs.

The updated labs and they're like, Oh my gosh, look at my cholesterol. [00:23:00] Oh my goodness. You know, the, I thought I was on a fish oil from Costco and then I did my Omega test and I was in the red and now of course my brain feels better. And of course my inflammation is down because I've been on an actual supplement, not straight from China.

That. Isn't rancid and their omegas are better, right? So they can see the proof is in the pudding, which, um, which is

Tyler Armstrong: powerful and the M. D. that that was 1 thing to the M. D. S. and the D. O. S. that are our G. P. S. for a lot of our patients. I mean. And we've just gotten a lot of positive feedback from them because they, the, the current medical system really doesn't allow them the time to even dive into this.

And we feel like we're really filling a gap for them and they appreciate that. And, and, and, and they're okay getting people off of meds if their numbers are looking better. And

Dr. Kevin Christie: are they referring patients to, you know, Yeah, we have

Tyler Armstrong: a decent amount that, that one of the health centers in town [00:24:00] refers quite a

Dr. Kevin Christie: few of us.

Yep. That's awesome. And then from, you know, the financial aspect, I know every month is, is different. So if there's like a range, what would you say it's added for revenue for the practice? Uh,

Tyler Armstrong: I have to go

Tiffany Armstrong: yearly because it's

Tyler Armstrong: so Like the total revenue. I mean, Yeah, if you want to do

Dr. Kevin Christie: it for the year, that's fine

Tyler Armstrong: too.

I mean, it's up, um, these last two years, it's Uh, some of this is due to chiropractic services that we've been expanding on as well, but it's been a 30 percent growth back to back years

Dr. Kevin Christie: and a good chunk of that growth is, is from the, from this program, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, that's awesome. And, um, so 2 years into it, you still see a kind of a steady climb.

Do you feel like there's a ceiling that you've hit with growth with it? Or, you know, you have some expansion plans. I know you mentioned potentially offloading some of the. Work to, to other, um, individuals in the practice. Yeah. So

Tiffany Armstrong: I guess, and it's just so dependent, [00:25:00] right? January and February are huge for weight loss.

Summer's terrible for us because just the consultation load. And then if we're gone a lot, like we're doing family vacations. So that's why I was saying, it's just hard to do month by month. Our goal is 10 signups a month, some month. 30 some months, it's two, right? So, um,

Tyler Armstrong: it's, uh, the definitely the first quarter, if not the first 30 a year is that's where the snowball effect happens.

You're going to get a big influx in January and then February, I'll get some trickling in. And then March is kind of like another rev up as we're getting into the spring season. And, and those are when we'll see our biggest, like Bumps, but then it just naturally trickles because people are getting results.

They refer their family and they refer their friends. And then I, I, I see consistent. I mean, we're probably at that point. Now, where we built it over the last 2 years where it's pretty stable,

Tiffany Armstrong: but that's why we're going to hire somebody we've been in player mode with this a little longer than I [00:26:00] think even we thought, but of course, we joined your mastermind and.

You know, just, um, got just so many great ideas on to help our patients and to continue to develop our team. So, other 7 systems and, um, kind of branching out, um, or hiring somebody for that took a backseat. But right now, I think we're definitely a capacity about 100 a year where my schedule, like I said, I love adjusting and only I can do that.

But if I can find somebody else, because I do the majority of the consultations right now. Um, if. If I can find somebody, which we're hopefully hiring somebody, um, here soon that wants to loves teaching, right? Loves nutrition, understands the power of food. Um, and then we can kind of start to hand off some of, some of the duties.

Um, so we hopefully aren't at our capacity anymore.

Dr. Kevin Christie: Yeah, that's a good thing. You know, it's just like in chiropractic practice. If you've reached your capacity, it's probably time to hire an associate in [00:27:00] the near future. And it's the same way with these other types of services. You will hit a ceiling and that's time to.

To hire and grow it even more. So perfect. And then, um, I wanted to, to kind of chat a little bit about, um, you know, how, how have you promoted this? I know we've, we've kind of touched on internal marketing. Um, are you shooting any videos? Are you sending any emails? Are you, uh, you know, what are the things you're doing to try to grow this and get the awareness out in the community or to your patient base?

Tyler Armstrong: We, um, yeah, internal marketing is 1 and, um, we really started doing more on the video side of things. We do a lot on social media with, like, graphics. Um, we're doing more on the video posts, uh, testimonials, working on getting a lot of our, our previous participants doing, uh, testimony videos. Um, we've also, uh, done a pretty good job, I think, with email marketing for this.

That's we've gotten a lot of people that have heard about it from [00:28:00] consistent email marketing, which. Um, that that's been that's been huge.

Tiffany Armstrong: My, um, I guess that's kind of a perk of a small town is, um, you know, we'll send out a picture of somebody down 50 pounds and they know that person, right? This isn't aloof.

This isn't like an idea, like it's happening and people want it. They want it for their parents. They want it for themselves. And they're, I always tell people like. Why I'm up there and I'm almost brought to tears all the time, right? Just talking about patients that, um, have just changed their lives and change their, you know, genetics.

Um, you know, they aren't feeding the bad ones. They're, um, teaching their daughters and their kids how to eat. And, um, how to manage stress, those type of things, but, um, yeah, seeing somebody, you know, get to benefit from, you know, they want to retire in their house with their husband at 90, right? They're [00:29:00] avoiding, um, they get to avoid some of the scary situations if they can turn it around for themselves, no matter how

Dr. Kevin Christie: life.

Yeah, and it sells itself. And I think one of the things you can consider, you mentioned testimonial videos. Um, I really liked the idea of the stories of transformation videos, which just kind of follows that Donald Miller framework. It's, you know, it's still kind of a testimonial video, but it, the way his seven steps are on that kind of works out with your seven steps.

Um, but it's a great framework to do a stories of transformation and get that going. So, uh, consider that. Definitely. Perfect. This was great. A lot of ton, ton of great information. I really appreciate it. Um, what was the name of the program again, just so our audience can, you know, they can look that up and then also, uh, if they wanted to potentially reach out to you, how could they do that?

Yeah,

Tiffany Armstrong: it's called the 7 systems plan. He has an Amazon number 1 bestseller. If you want to dig into the book, which is laid out a lot, like the classes and through his website, you can sign [00:30:00] up. You can always reach out to us because we've definitely, like, we said, systemized his classes to fit more of a chiropractic model, a little more personalized, a little bit more blood work involved in the consultations because I love numbers.

I'm so sick of guessing. Um, probably the best email would

Tyler Armstrong: be. Yeah. Jeff, my email would be drtylerarmstrong at gmail. com and you can check our website out at suecenterchiropractic. com Well, on that on 7 systems right on our website. If you want to check it. Oh,

Dr. Kevin Christie: great. Well, Tiffany and Tyler, I really appreciate your time and and your, your, uh, information on this and the wisdom I'm excited to to see you in person in a few weeks and, uh, probably have you do another each one to each 1 this year as well.

Tyler Armstrong: Sounds good.

Tiffany Armstrong: Thanks Kevin.